Program

PROGRAM

 

Wednesday, October 18th

13:00 REGISTRATION
14:30 - 16:30 PRE-CONGRESS SYMPOSIUM (In collaboration with the French Society of Endocrinology). Room 111-112
Moderators: Nadine Binart (Paris. France) / Andrea Giustina (Milan. Italy)
 
  - Congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism: from monogenic to oligogenic paradigm 
   Jacques Young (Paris. France)
- Aggressive pituitary tumors
   Denis Raccah (Marsella. France)
- Intelligent combinations of drugs for the treatment of type 2 diabetes 
   Gerard Raverot (Lyon. France)

In collaboration of Sanofi 

17:15 - 18:00 GREGORIO MARAÑON OPENING CONFERENCE. Room 111-112
MATERNAL-FETAL MICROBIOTA AND METABOLIC HEALTH
Moderators: Albert Lecube (Lleida) / Josep Vidal (Barcelna) / Manel Puig (Badalona. Barcelona)

Carmen Collado (Valencia)  
18:00 - 18:30 OFFICIAL OPENING. Room 111-112  
18:30 - 19:00 PRESENTATION OF THE 3rd EDITION OF SEEN'SBOOK ON NUTRITION. STRATEGY 2022 FOR ENDOCRINOLOGY AND NUTRITION IN SPAIN. Room 111-112
Moderators: 
Manel Puig (Badalona. Barcelona) / Ignacio Bernabeu (Santiago de Compostela. A Coruña) / Irene Bretón (Madrid)  
Pedro Pablo García Luna (Sevilla) / Daniel de Luis (Valladolid) / Diego Bellido (Ferrol. A Coruña) / Gabriel Olveira (Malaga)
19:00 - 20:30 SATELLITE SYMPOSIUM. Room 113
METABOLIC AND CV SAFETY OF INSULINS: BEYOND NON-INFERIORITY
Moderator: Francisco Tinahones (Malaga)
  - Metabolic safety
   Ángel Merchante (Castellon)
- CV Safety
   Cristóbal Morales (Seville) 

Sponsored by Novo Nordisk

19:00 - 20:30 UPDATE. Room 114
MEAT AND ITS OTHER TYPES IN HEALTHY FOOD
Luis Miguel Luengo (Badajoz) & Javier Ponte (A Coruña) 

Sponsored by Interporc 

20:30 WELCOME COCKTAIL
   
 

Thursday, October 19th

08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT FROM ARGENTINA. Room 113  
FOLLOW-UP AND DYNAMIC STAGING OF THE RISK OF THYROID CANCER
Moderators: Carles Zafón (Barcelona) / Diego Schawarstein (Rosario. Argentina)

Fabian Pitoia (Buenos Aires. Argentina)  
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 2. Room 120-121    
WHEN SHOULD WE CONSIDER MULTIPLE ENDOCRINE NEOPLASIA?
Nuria Valdés (Oviedo)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 3. Room 122-123 
PERIOPERATIVE MANAGEMENT OF PITUITARY TUMOURS
Carmen Fajardo (Valencia)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 4. Room 114
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK IN THE TREATMENT OF TYPE 2 DIABETES? 
Pedro Mezquita (Almeria) 

In collaboration of Menarini, S.A.

08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 5. Room 127-128  
NEUROREHABILITATION FOR OROPHARYNGEAL DYSPHAGIA
Pere Clavé (Mataró. Barcelona)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 6. Room 129-130 
MANAGEMENT OF HYPOGONADOTROPIC HYPOGONADISM IN MALES
Gumersindo Fernández Vázquez (Madrid)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 7. Room 131-132 
DIAGNOSIS AND MANAGEMENT OF SECONDAY OSTEOPOROSIS
Elena García (Madrid)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 1. Room 113
THYROID FUNCTION DURING PREGNANCY
Moderators: Carolina López Cano (Lleida) / Sergio Donnay (Madrid)
  - Thyroid hormones in fetal brain maturation
   Pere Berbe (Alicante)
- Assessment of iodine nutritional status in pregnant women
   Inés Velasco (Huelva)
- Maternal-fetal complications in pregnant women with gestational hypothroidism
   Berta Soldevila (Badalona. Barcelona)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 2. Room 114
WHEN OBESITY GOES TO OUR HEAD
Moderators: Marta Bueno (Lleida) / Josep Vidal (Barcelona)
  Satiety, central regulation of energy balance, and obesity
   Cecilio Álamo (Alcalá de Henares. Madrid)
- Metabolic adaptations to weight loss
   Eric Ravussin (Baton Rouge. USA)
- Study on cerebral connectivity in Prader-Willy Syndrome
   Assumpta Caixàs (Sabadell. Barcelona)
09:30 - 10:45  SESSION 3. Room 111-112
TYPE 2 DIABETES
Moderators: Marta Hernández García (Lleida) / Rebeca Reyes (Almeria)
  - Not all adult DM are the same
   Jesús Blanco (Barcelona)
- Not all diabetes drugs are the same
   Fernando Gómez Peralta (Segovia)
- Not all diabetes patients are the same
   Elías Delgado (Oviedo)

In collaboration of Menarini, S.A

09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 4. Room 212 (2nd floor) 
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINANTS IN ARTIFICIAL NUTRITION
Moderators: Cristina Domínguez Gadea (Lleida) / Luis Miguel Luengo (Badajoz)
  - Endrocrine disruptors in artificial nutrition 
   María Badia (L'Hospitalet de Llobregat. Barcelona)
Exposure to mercury and other metals through food
   Montserrat González Estecha (Madrid)
- Endrocrine disruptors in non-artificial nutrition
   Nicolás Olea (Granada)
10:45 - 11:15 COFFEE BREAK
11:15 - 11:45 UPDATE. Room 131-132
MEET THE EXPERT. TECOS AND SUBANALYSIS UPDATE
Didac Mauricio (Barcelona) & Ramón Gomis (Barcelona)

Sponsored by Merck Sharp & Dohme Spain

11:15 - 11:45 UPDATE. Room 120-121
TREATING OBESITY IN THE LONG TERM: EVIDENCE WITH SAXENDA®

Miguel Ángel Rubio (Madrid)

Sponsored by Novo Nordisk 

11:45 - 12:30 CONFERENCE 1. Room 111-112
DIAGNOSIS AND MANAGEMENT OF LIPODYSTROPHIC SYNDROMES
Moderators: Elena Navarro (Sevilla) / Ignacio Bernabeu (Santiago de Compostela. A Coruña)
David Araujo-Vilar (Santiago de Compostela. A Coruña)
12:30 - 14:00 ENDO-YOUTH SESSION. Room 122-123

In collaboration of Novo Nordisk

12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 1. Room 120-121
DIABETES MELLITUS
Moderators: Nuria Alonso (Barcelona) / Pedro de Pablos (Las Palmas de Gran Canaria)
 
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 2. Room 111-112
THYROID GLANDS
Moderators: Gabriel Obiols (Barcelona) / Juan Carlos Galofré (Pamplona)
 
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 3. Room 212 (2nd floor)
NEUROENDOCRINOLOGY
Moderators: Mónica Marazuela (Madrid) / Betina Biagetti (Barcelona)
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 1. Room 129-130
NUTRITION
Moderators: Diego Bellido (Ferrol, A Coruña) / Clara Joaquín (Badalona, Barcelona)
 
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 1. Room 131-132
OBESITY, METABOLIC SYNDROME AND LIPIDS
Moderators: Mar Malagón (Cordoba) / Amelia Marí (Pamplona)
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 1. Room  127-128
ADRENAL GLANDS, GONADS, IDENTITY AND SEXUAL DIFFERENTIATION
Moderators: Fernando Cordido (A Coruña) / Lluís Bassas (Barcelona)
14:00 - 16:00 NUTRITION OPEN CLASSROOM. Room 120-121 
14:00 - 16:00 WORK GROUP MEETINGS
14:00 - 16:00 LUNCH
14:00 - 16:00 LUNCH WITH THE EXPERT. Room 211 (2nd floor)
IS A FULLER APPROACH TO T2D POSSIBLE?

Moderator: Francisco Javier Ampudia (Valencia)
  Beyond glycemic control
 
  Juan José Gorgojo (Madrid)
- Real world evidence with iSGLT2 
   Florentino Carral (Puerto Real, Cadiz)

Sponsored by Janssen

14:00 - 16:00 LUNCH WITH THE EXPERT. Room 113 and VIP ROOM
A YEAR OF THYROID CANCER IN 60 MINUTES

Sponsored by Sanofi Genzyme

14:00 - 16:00 LUNCH WITH THE EXPERT. Room 114 and BANQUET HALL 
EXPERIENCES IN T2D: FROM RELEVANCE TO CLINICAL PRACTICE
Moderator: Ramón Gomis (Barcelona)
Melanie Davies (Leicester. United Kingdom) and Antonio Pérez (Barcelona)

Sponsored by Boehringer-Lilly

16:00 - 17:15 SESSION 5. Room 113 
NEW HORIZONS IN NEUROENDOCRINOLOGY
Moderators: Raúl Luque (Córdoba) / Susan Webb (Barcelona)
 

Effects of prolactin in human beings, beyond reproduction
   Nadine Binart (Paris. France)
- Kisspeptins and pituitary function
   Manuel Tena Sempere (Cordoba)
- Pituitary stem cells and tumorigenesis
   Juan Pedro Martínez Barberá (London. United Kingdom)

16:00 - 17:15  SESSION 6. Room 111-112
UPDATE ON SUPRARENAL
Moderator: Paz de Miguel (Madrid)
  - Is adrenal venous sampling the Gold Standard in the diagnosis of primary  hyperaldosteronism?
   Jaap Deinum (Nijmegen. The Netherlands)
- Recommendations for somatic and germline genetic testing in  pheochromocytoma and isolated paraganglioma
   María Currás-Freixes (Madrid)
- Diagnosis of primary hyperaldosteronism: plasma renin concentration vs plasma  renin activity
   Nieves López Lazareno (Madrid)
16:00 - 17:15  SESSION 7. (In collaboration with the Spanish Diabetes Society). Room 114
THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE OF DIABETES
Moderators: Anna Novials (Barcelona) / Manel Puig (Badalona. Barcelona)
  Role of beta cell heterogeneity in insulin release
   David Jonathan Hodson (Birmingham. United Kingdom)
- Mitochondrial alterations in obesity-related diabetes
   Belén Peral (Madrid)
- Design of the ideal artificial pancreas
   Jorge Bondia (Valencia)
16:00 - 17:15  SESSION 8. Room 212 (2nd floor)
MICROBIOTA: AN ORGAN HIDDEN WITHIN ANOTHER ORGAN
Moderators: José Miguel González Clemente (L'Hospitalet de Llobregat. Barcelona) / Francisco Tinahones (Malaga)
  - How does microbiota communicate with other organs?
   Claude Knauf (Toulousse. France)
- Interaction between microbiota and CNS
   José Manuel Fernández Real (Girona)
- Pending
   Pending
17:15 - 18:00 CONFERENCE 2. Room 111-112
DIET AND TUMOUR PROGRESSION
Moderators: Manuel Pérez Maraver (Bellvitge. Barcelona) / María Ballesteros (Leon)
Carlos Alberto González Svatetz (Barcelona)
18:00 - 19:00 SEEN ASSEMBLY. Room 111-112
19:00 - 20:30 SATELLITE SYMPOSIUM. Room 212 (2nd Floor)
TOWARDS PERSONALIZED MEDICINE IN ACROMEGALY
Moderators: Manel Puig (Badalona. Barcelona) / Cristina Lamas (Albacete)
  - REMAH: Future of personalized treatment in acromegaly
   Mónica Marazuela
- Signifor: Long-term experience
   Diego Ferone (Genova. Italy)
- After a year with Signifor
   Ignacio Bernabeu (Santiago de Compostela. A Coruña) & Javier Aller (Madrid)

Sponsored by Novartis

 19:00 - 20:30 SATELLITE SYMPOSIUM. Room 212 (2nd Floor)
DIABETES

Sponsored by Sanofi

   

Friday, October 20th

08:30- 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 8. Room 114 
WHEN IS THYROID CANCER NOT CANCER?: IMPLICATIONS OF CHANGING THE NAME
Emma Anda (Pamplona)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 9. Room 120-121    
FUNCTIONAL OR ORGANIC HYPOCLYCEMIA: HOW TO TELL THEM APART?
Carmen Macía (Aviles. Asturias)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 10. Room 122-123     
ADVANCES IN THE DIAGNOSIS OF CUHING'S SYNDROME
Antonio León Justel (Huelva)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 11. Room 127-128    
EATING DISORDERS IN MORBID OBESITY
Fernando Fernández Aranda (L'Hospitalet de Llobregat. Barcelona)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 12. Room 129-130 
QUALITY OF LIFE AND NUTRITIONAL SUPPORT
Cristina Cuerda (Madrid)
08:30 - 09:20 MEETING WITH THE EXPERT 13. Room 131-132
HYDROELECTROLYTIC DISORDERS, CASE STUDIES
Isabelle Runkle de la Vega (Madrid)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 9. Room 113
 PITUITARY GLAND AND CARDIOVASCULAR RISK
Moderators: Jordi Mesa (Barcelona) / Cristina Lamas (Albacete) 
  Predictors of cardiovascular risk in acromegaly
   Anna Aulinas (Boston. United States)
- Cardiovascular risk after cure of Cushing's Syndrome
   Felizia Hanzu (Barcelona)
- Hypopituitarism and morbidity-mortality
   Eva Fernández (Ourense)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 10. Room 120-121
ENDOCRINOLOGY AND CANCER
Moderators: Sonia Fernández Veledo (Tarragona) / Justo Castaño (Cordoba) 
  - Adipokines and breast cancer
   Ana Belén Crujeiras (Santiago de Compostela. A Coruña)
- Role of type 3 deiodinase in stem cells and neoplastic epithelial cells
   Mónica Dentice (Napoles. Italy)
- Adipose tissue and colorectal cancer
   Jesús García Foncillas (Madrid)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 11 (In collaboration with the Spanish Society of Atherosclerosis). Room 111-112
SEVERE DYSLIPIDEMIA
Moderators: Liliana Gutiérrez Carrasquilla (Lleida)/ Xavier Pintó (Barcelona) 
  - Familial Hypercholesterolemia: Where are they? How are they? 
   Alberto Zamora (Girona)
- For: All for the patient
   José Manuel Cabezas Agrícola (Santiago de Compostela. A Coruña)
- The difficult balance between expectation and prudence
   Gonzalo Calvo (Barcelona)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 12. Room 111-112  
ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER
Moderators: Miguel Ángel Rubio (Madrid) / Rosa Corcoy (Barcelona)
  - Postnatal consequences of fetal malnutrition
   Ana Cantón (Santiago de Compostela)
- Bariatric surgery and pregnancy: What outcomes?
   Pedro Pablo García Luna (Seville)
- Management of congenital adrenal hyperplasia during pregnancy
   Anne Bachelot (Paris. France)
09:30 - 10:45 SESSION 13. Room 212 (2nd Floor) 
BONE TISSUE AND VITAMIN D: OUR NEW PARTNERS
Moderators: Nuria Vilarrasa (Bellvitge. Barcelona) / Carlos Morillas (Valencia) 
  - Intestine and bone
   Manuel Muñoz (Granada)
- Trabecular bone score
   Guillermo Martínez Díaz-Guerra (Madrid)
- New osteoanabolics: abaloparatide and romozosumab
   Esteban Jódar (Madrid)
10:45 - 11:15 COFFEE BREAK
11:15 - 11:45 UPDATE. Room 120-121
NEW PARADIGM IN SBS MANAGEMENT: TEDUGLUTIDE
Moderator: Silvia Mauri (Girona) 
Rosa Burgos (Barcelona)

Sponsored by Shire

11:15 - 11:45 UPDATE. Room 131-132  
LENVIMA: UPDATE ON A NEW TREATMENT OPTIONA IN IODINE-REFRACTORY DIFFERENTIATED THYROID CANCER
Javier Aller (Madrid)
 

Sponsored by Eisai 

11:45 - 12:30 CONFERENCE 3. Room 111-112
NEW WAYS OF TREATMENT ON DIABETIC RETINOPATHY
Moderator: Didac Mauricio (Badalona, Barcelona)
Rafael Simó (Barcelona)
12:30 - 14:00 STENO SYMPOSIUM. Room 111-112
THE HEART IN DIABETES
Moderators: Jaime Davidson (Dallas, USA) / Sharona Azriel (Madrid)

In collaboration of Novo Nordisk

12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 7. Room 122-123
DIABETES MELLITUS
Moderators: Virginia Bellido (Barakaldo, Vizcaya) / Ana Megía (Tarragona) 
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 8. Room 113
THYROID GLANDS
Moderators: Lluis Vila (Barcelona) / Elena Navarro (Seville)
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 9. Room 127-128
OBESITY, METABOLIC SYNDROME AND LIPIDS
Moderator: Miguel Ángel Rubio (Madrid) / José Manuel García Almeida (Malaga) 
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 10. Room 129-130
ENDOCRINOLOGICAL ONCOLOGY
Moderators: Javier Aller (Madrid) / Irene Halperin (Barcelona)
12:30 - 14:00 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 11. Room 131-132
BONE AND MINERAL METABOLISM
Moderators: Carles Villabona (Barcelona) / Ferrán Rius (Lleida)
14:00 - 16:00 POSTER SESSIONS BUFFET. Banquet Hall
  NEUROENDOCRINOLOGY
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Moderators: Concepción Blanco (Alcala de Henares, Madrid) / Antonio Picó (Alicante)
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Moderators: Eva Mª Venegas (Seville) / Isabel Pavón (Madrid)
  THYROID GLANDS
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Moderators: Silvia Wengrovicz (Barcelona) / Beatriz Lecumberri (Madrid)
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Moderators: Amelia Oleaga (Bilbao) / Javier Santamará (Vizcaya) 
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Moderators: Tomás Martín (Seville) / Cristina Álvarez-Escolá (Madrid)
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Moderators: Anna María Lucas (Badalona, Barcelona) / José Ignacio Vidal (Lugo) 

In collaboration of Merck 

  ADRENAL GLANDS, GONADS, IDENTITY AND SEXUAL DIFFERENTIATION
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Moderators: Miguel Paja (Bilbao) / Alfonso Soto Moreno (Seville)
 

DIABETES MELLITUS
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Moderators: Edelmiro Menéndez (Oviedo) / Manuel Gargallo (Madrid)
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Moderators: Ana Chico (Barcelona) / Francisca Almodóvar (Madrid) 
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Moderators: Domingo Acosta (Seville) / Javier Acha (Zaragoza)
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Moderators: Iñaki Llorente (Tenerife) / Mercedes Rigla (Barcelona)
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Moderators: Cristina Hernández (Barcelona) / Óscar Moreno (Alicante)
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Moderators: Luis Masmiquel (Palma de Mallorca) / Virginia Martín Borge (Madrid) 
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Moderators: Soledad Ruíz de Adana (Malaga) / María Ángeles Martínez de Salinas (Logroño) 

  OBESITY
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Moderators: María Jesús Díaz (Asturias) / Liliam Flores (London, United Kingdom)
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Moderators: Federico Vázquez (Vizcaya) / Purificación Martínez de Icaya (Madrid) 
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Moderators: Amanda Jiménez (Barcelona) / Mª José Morales (Vigo, Pontevedra)
 

NUTRITION
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Moderators: Julia Ocón (Zaragoza) / Enric Sánchez Peña (Lleida)
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Moderators: Mª Luisa Fernández Soto (Granada) / Katherine García Malpartida (Valencia) 

 

BONE AND MINERAL METABOLISM
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Moderators: María Cortés (Madrid) / Manuel Romero (Murcia)

 

MISCELANIUS
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Moderators: Luis Ángel Cuéllar (Valladolid) / José Ignacio Lara (Madrid)

 

CLINIC CASES
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Moderators: Águeda Caballero (Tenerife) / Fernado Calvo (Zaragoza) 
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Moderators: Gabriel Giménez (Barcelona) / Marta Monreal (Zaragoza) 

16:00 - 17:15 SESSION 14 (In collaboration with the Portuguese Society of Endocrinology, Diabetes and Metabolism). Room 111-112
MYNIMALLY INTERVENTIONAL PROCEDURES IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THYROID DISEASETIROIDEA
Moderators: Francisco Carrilho (Coimbra, Portugal) / Irene Bretón (Madrid)
  - Preoperative assessment of thyroid cancer
   Fernando Rodrigues (Coimbra, Portugal)
- Ablation of benign thyroid nodules
   Mattia Squarcia (Barcelona)
- Ablation of thyroid cancer and its metastases
   Gonzalo Díaz Soto (Valladolid)
16:00 - 17:15 SESSION 15. Room 113   
WEIGHT RECOVERY AFTER BARIATRIC SURGERY
Moderator: Albert Goday (Barcelona) / Francisco Botella (Albacete)
  - Bile salts and metabolic effects of bariatric surgery
   Alexander D. Miras (London. United Kingdom)
- Use of functional MRI to better understand changes in eating behaviour after  bariatric surgery
   Tony Goldstone (London. United Kingdom)
- Reoperation in failed bariatric surgery: indications and type of technique
   Andrés Sánchez Pernaute (Madrid)
16:00 - 17:15 SESSION 16. Room 114 
SEEN-SENPE ROUND TABLE: INITIATIVES TO FIGHT AGAINST DISEASE-RELATED MALNUTRITION
Moderators: Nuria Virgili (Bellvitge. Barcelona) / Miguel León (Madrid)
 
  - What can we learn from Nutrition Day?
   Rosa Burgos (Barcelona)
- Advancing together in the Better Nourished Alliance
   Julia Álvarez (Madrid)
- Role of the Administration in the fight against disease-related malnutrition
   Carles Blay (Vic. Barcelona)

In collaboration of Abbott Nutrition

16:00 - 17:15  SESSION 17Room 212 (2nd Floor) 
POPULATION OR COHORT STUDIES IN SPAIN: REMEMBER MY NAME
Moderators: Joan Vendrell (Tarragona) / José Antonio Gimeno (Zaragoza)
   - ILERVAS Project
   Elvira Fernández Giráldez (Lleida)
- CECat Consortium
   Rosa Mª Bella (Sabadell. Barcelona)
- Molecular Registry of Pituitary Adenomas (REMAH)
   Miguel Sampedro (Madrid)
- Pizarra Study
   Gemma Rojo-Martínez (Malaga)

In collaboration of Lilly

17:15 - 18:00 CLOSING CONFERENCE. Room 111-112 
LET'S BUY LIES
Moderators: Manel Puig (Badalona. Barcelona) / Irene Bretón (Madrid) 
José Manuel López Nicolás (Murcia)
18:00 - 18:15 CLOSURE. Room 111-112
21:00 CLOSING DINNER AND AWARDS CEREMONYHILTON HOTEL (Next CCIB)